FIBA Asia Championship Standings
2011 FIBA Asia Championship
Wuhan, China
1st place – China (9-0) (Slot in 2012 London Olympics)
2nd place – Jordan (5-4) (Slot in 2012 FIBA Olympic Qualifiers)
3rd place – Korea (7-2) (Slot in 2012 FIBA Olympic Qualifiers)
4th place – Philippines (6-3)
5th place – Iran (8-1)
6th place – Lebanon (4-5)
7th place – Japan (5-4)
8th place – Chinese-Taipei (4-5)
9th place – Syria (4-4)
10th place – United Arab Emirates (2-6)
11th place – Malaysia (3-5)
12th place – Uzbekistan (1-7)
13th place – Indonesia (2-3)
14th place – India (1-4)
15th place – Bahrain (1-4)
16th place – Qatar (0-5)
Thank you Smart Gilas Pilipinas!
Hindi humina skills ng mga players, hindi lang malaki improvement. I don’t understand why alot of Filipinos think the 80′s and the 90′s players were a better talent. They were good only because 90% of the basketball teams in Asia were BOPOLS. Now that these countries have learnt how to play great basketball we blame our new talents for not being in their class. Blame the early basketball years of the Philippines for being so complacent, even our sports commentators has not made improvements speaking in English. I know many Filipinos will say we should be proud and contented that our sports commentators’ English proficiency are better than any sports commentators or sports analyst in Asia, comparing to the way other Asian nations broadcast the event in English. Actually, that has been the long problem of the Filipinos, we tend to be contented because we had the 1st international airport, number 1 in rice and sugar production and etc., next thing we know, we are not even in the same class as the other countries what we used to call BOPOLS, because they got better and it was because they were never complacent. Some open-minded Filipinos would say “mayabang kasi mga pinoy,” and others would retaliate saying “paran hindi ka pinoy kung magsalita.” Well, what is wrong in telling the truth???
A BETTER SPORTS PROGRAM AND A BETTER ATTITUDE IS WHAT WE ALL NEED.
And why some Filipinos say we need to remove Lutz, ans some will say even Lassiter? These two was the reason why we reached the TOP4. Lutz didn’t score that much but it was his defense who made a difference. Lassiter is a young player who will eventually get better in all aspect of his game. I have to admit Chris Tiu, though, was a liability in their last 2 games, but we should not say that we should replace him with point guards like Tenorio and Castro, just because they were good point guards in the PBA. Chris Tiu already has the experience and exposure in international competition, that alone is an asset, knowing that when Smart-Gilas played against the PBA teams, Tiu were outplaying most of the point guards, with the exception of Alapag and Cabagnot. Tiu played like he was a shorter version of Steve Nash, he just need time to develop himself as a prolific play maker. So, why would someone think those two (tenorio and castro) can benefit more to team Gilas when Tiu has better years ahead of those two?
GILAS VS JORDAN>
Always relying on the Imports and Fil-am’s A-game. Aguilar should’ve been in the game playing interior defense helping douthit to dismantle Jordan’s interior passing and offensive rebounds, he would’ve been fresh off the bench considering he didn’t play the last game, compare to Williams who was obviously tired. Lassiter should’ve given a go-signal to take it more against Daghlas (i’m not sure of the spelling), who already had 4 fouls with on the last 18mins of the game. Toroman is the best coach we’ve had for Philippine international basketball since Rob Jacobs, but yesterday, he was mediocre for he was outcoached by his counterpart.
KOREA VS GILAS
What can I say? Our team did their best (at least they think they did), but it wasn’t good enough. We played hard but we didn’t play to our potential, maybe, because of lack of international experience playing together or jelling together for a long time with the same players. I really blame the PBA as it degraded the potentials of our basketball players over the course of basketball development in the Philippines. It is never a reason that we are too short or not big enough, because our speed and basketball IQ makes us competitive. We know we are short, so, we should work more hard to make everyone (even our forward and centers) who plays basketball in our country develop more consistent dribbling skills with consistent pull-up jumpers, mid-range jumpers and drive-hard to the basket plays. We should develop a KILLER INSTINCT to avoid playing catch-up games to powerhouse teams in Asia like Iran, China and Korea, or even to an old-tired Jordanian team. To add more validation to my opinion, the Philippine Basketball Association should have a sense of urgency to change its rules to FIBA rules, for our players to have more familiarity, consistency and complexity on international game situations with regularity. Being called a “professional league” is just a name, when we actually don’t need to use the term professional just to make us a basketball country, ALA NBA. Please, if we can just accept our flaws as nation and quit the “sariling-papuri” mentality that we injure for so many courses of competition. Philippine basketball can be champions, and it won’t be next year, nor in the next FIBA ASIA, but it will be NOW!!!
We all have had enough tears for years.
The changing of PBA rules to FIBA is something that has never been discussed, I just brought it up to consider it as an option.
We should not pick players just because they play good in the PBA, some of the bench players in the PBA can play better “inernational basketball” than some starters and all-stars in your beloved PBA. We should base the line-up on how the player’s game could have a strong-consistent-presence in international games. James Yap? Fonacier? Tenorio? Even we give these players more practice they will always be inconsistent, maybe if they started when they were younger they could make a difference. Hontiveros is a steady shooter, better than J. Yap in international games. Tenorio is good but he is not an Alapag who can jump and shoot the three with ease. Fonacier doesn’t play defense, how can he guard taller and quicker guards? Thoss? Too thin to play back up to play defense, if we would still have Douthit, we need a back-up in center position who can play aggressive defense in short minutes. I see that the kind of line-up you and the others proposed were all scorers, we don’t need that kind of line-up, we need some role players, defensive specialist, a designated shooter and a consistent 2nd scorer to Douthit.
Let’s not include Pingris in the line-up either because of his age and we already have De Ocampo who can rebound, play defense, shoot the 3 and can drive to the basket, even Pingris is a better shooter, we need more of a complete player which only De Ocampo posses among pure Filipino big man.
Anyway, i don’t see why Toroman had never used Douthit, Taulava and De Ocampo playing at the same time in the game, with Alapag and Lassiter playing the guard posotion, hmmm…
Even for just 3 to 4 mins once in awhile…
Let’s not include Pingris in the line-up either because of his age and we already have De Ocampo who can rebound, play defense, shoot the 3 and can drive to the basket, even Pingris is a better shooter, we need more of a complete player which only De Ocampo posses among pure Filipino big man.
Anyway, i don’t see why Toroman had never used Douthit, Aguilar and De Ocampo playing at the same time in the game, with Alapag and Lassiter playing the guard position, hmmm…
Even for just 3 to 4 minutes once in awhile…
Let’s not include Pingris > I meant Pennisi
Let’s not include Pingris in the line-up either because of his age and we already have De Ocampo who can rebound, play defense, shoot the 3 and can drive to the basket, even Pingris is a better shooter, we need more of a complete player which only De Ocampo posses among pure Filipino big man.
Anyway, i don’t see why Toroman had never used Douthit, Aguilar and De Ocampo playing at the same time in the game, with Alapag and Lassiter playing the guard position, even for just 3 to 4 minutes once in awhile, hmm…
Even USA needs enough practice now a days, the game is different now. To the ones who kept on bringing up the silver medal finish in 1990 Beijing, you are so full of it.
Even If the likes of Paras and company discovers the “fountain of youth,” do you really believe they can win silver in FIBA playing the present teams in Asia? Maybe if Samboy (my idol) were 6’4″, Patrimonio were 6’4″ with a wider body, Caidic if he could only dribble like a guard and Calma being over 6 feet, maybe we’ll stand a chance. We should not live in the past because people in the 90′s era were also talikng about the same heart-breaking “what if” situation, talking about the silver medal finish with Caloy Loyzaga in the world championship a very long time ago. Filipinos say we were a basketball power, which is true, but a basketball power during the time when most countries doesn’t know how to play basketball.
MY OWN PHILIPPINE TEAM
(smart-kamadores)
Casio 5’11″ PG – for his dedication to the team and 3pt shooting
Lassiter 6’2 1/2″ SG – for his hard-nose plays
Lutz 6’4″ SF – speed and defense
De Ocampo 6’6″ PF – off the ball skills and positioning
Douthit 6’11″ C – of course!
RESERVES>
Cabagnot 6’0″ PG – play making skills and 20 footers (alapag is aging)
Mercado 6’0″ G – for his strength to drive to the basket
Santos 6′ 4 1/2″ SF – for his length and transition game (more practice)
Aguilar 6’10″ PF – block shots with low-post game improvement
Washinton 6’7″ PF/C – quality mins for douthit
Slaughter 7’0″ C – height, quick drop passes near the rim from teammates
Canelata 6’5″ SF – i know his 3pt shooting, jumping ability to chase driving lay-ups and 15 footers can be good for international games
*Norwood, if Canaleta doesn’t improve in team practices, can play point
Tiu, if one of the guards can’t play due to PBA commitments
Not more than 3 players under 6ft..